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ENG-ESP: Urgent --> up-revved
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Colman
2003-07-08 04:43:25 UTC
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Hi all!

Could anyone explain the meaning of "up-revved" y this context, please?

In this case, all of the sheets must have the same revision, therefore they
must all be *** up-revved *** and re-issued at the same time, regardless of
whether there have been any changes made to a sheet.

Could it be "revised and updated"? The general (con)text is about revisions
of documents in a company.

Thanks a lot in advance!
Steven (remove wax for reply)
2003-07-08 04:53:15 UTC
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Post by Colman
Hi all!
Could anyone explain the meaning of "up-revved" y this context, please?
In this case, all of the sheets must have the same revision, therefore they
must all be *** up-revved *** and re-issued at the same time, regardless of
whether there have been any changes made to a sheet.
Could it be "revised and updated"? The general (con)text is about revisions
of documents in a company.
I believe that it means something a bit different. Here's an example.

Assume that all the sheets have "revision numbers", and that all of
the sheets are currently at Rev. 5:

Sheet 1 Rev. 5 01-Mar-03
Sheet 2 Rev. 5 01-Mar-03
Sheet 3 Rev. 5 01-Mar-03
Sheet 4 Rev. 5 01-Mar-03

Assume that a change is made to sheet 2, effective today. Under some
systems, only that particular sheet would be reissued, and the table
of contents would look like this:

Sheet 1 Rev. 5 01-Mar-03
Sheet 2 Rev. 6 07-Jul-03
Sheet 3 Rev. 5 01-Mar-03
Sheet 4 Rev. 5 01-Mar-03

However, under the system described in your document, all of the
sheets would have their revision number increased ("upped"):

Sheet 1 Rev. 6 07-Jul-03
Sheet 2 Rev. 6 07-Jul-03
Sheet 3 Rev. 6 07-Jul-03
Sheet 4 Rev. 6 07-Jul-03
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John Woodgate
2003-07-08 05:51:27 UTC
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Post by Colman
Hi all!
Could anyone explain the meaning of "up-revved" y this context, please?
In this case, all of the sheets must have the same revision, therefore they
must all be *** up-revved *** and re-issued at the same time, regardless of
whether there have been any changes made to a sheet.
Could it be "revised and updated"? The general (con)text is about revisions
of documents in a company.
Not exactly, because it says that 'up-revving' (ugh!) applies even if
there has been no change to a sheet.

So it means that the *revision number' alone is increased, so that 'all
sheets have the same revision'.

I'm surprised that any system requires this procedure, because it leads
to people searching sheets for ages, trying to find 'what changed?',
when nothing has (except the revision number), or (potentially much
worse) assuming that there has been no change when in fact there has
been.
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Tsu Dho Nimh
2003-07-08 11:51:20 UTC
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Post by John Woodgate
So it means that the *revision number' alone is increased, so that 'all
sheets have the same revision'.
I'm surprised that any system requires this procedure, because it leads
to people searching sheets for ages, trying to find 'what changed?',
when nothing has (except the revision number), or (potentially much
worse) assuming that there has been no change when in fact there has
been.
It's an evil plot by technical documentation departments to
confuse the users :)

The usual policy is that if documents merge, the resulting
document gets a revision that is one higher in the scheme than
the highest-numbered document.

Usually there will be something in the revision table that
indicates a up-revving has happened, and

Tsu

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Tsu Dho Nimh
2003-07-08 11:48:01 UTC
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Post by Colman
Could anyone explain the meaning of "up-revved" y this context, please?
In this case, all of the sheets must have the same revision, therefore they
must all be *** up-revved *** and re-issued at the same time, regardless of
whether there have been any changes made to a sheet.
Could it be "revised and updated"? The general (con)text is about revisions
of documents in a company.
Not necessarily "revised" ... it means all of the pages in the
document or set of documents under discussion have to be assigned
the next highest legal revision number and re-issued, whether
revisions are made to the text or not.

NOTE: Some large operating systems can have a set of documents
that occupies 6 or more FEET of shelving when printed and placed
in binders. In these large document sets, it is fairly common
for revisions to be done page by page. The tech writers send the
revised or new pages out to be inserted in binders by the users,
along with a notice of pages to delete. A page with rev. 3.011
would become 3.011a, then 3.011b ... until you run out of
letters and start aa, bb, etc.

Periodically, when there is a major change to the software and
hardware that will make large chunks of the documents obsolete or
the number of revisions has become totally confusing you "up-rev"
everything, print it ALL out, and issue a fresh set. For
example, all pages would go from 3.011 to 3.012 or maybe 4.0 ...
the revision numbering scheme varies from company to company.

Other reasons for up-revving are when you have merged document
sets or adopted a new revision numbering system.

Tsu

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are two equally convenient solutions; both
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