What is a "perito commerciale"?

[Phil]

I'm doing someone's CV, and it says "diploma di ragionere e perito
commerciale". My dictionary gives the latter phrase simply as
"accountant". Presumably ragionere and perito commerciale are two
different things - can anyone enlighten me please?

[Mary Cassidy]

Post by Phil
I'm doing someone's CV, and it says "diploma di ragionere e perito
commerciale". My dictionary gives the latter phrase simply as
"accountant". Presumably ragionere and perito commerciale are two
different things - can anyone enlighten me please?

This isn't an accountant's qualification (the closest Italian equivalent
to the English accountant is a "commercialista", who has a university
degree).

You could perhaps translate it as "diploma in book-keeping and business
studies".

It's more or less equivalent to A-level standard.

[Jordi]

Post by Phil
I'm doing someone's CV, and it says "diploma di ragionere e perito
commerciale". My dictionary gives the latter phrase simply as
"accountant". Presumably ragionere and perito commerciale are two
different things - can anyone enlighten me please?

Don't know in Italian, but a perito in Spanish is an expert in
quantification and valoration, and is a title given by the government.
For example, an accidented car has to be examined by a perito sent by
the insurance company and presumably neutral before any repair is
started. There different kind of peritos depending on their areas of
expertise.

There are 'peritaje' requirements for most situations involving
damages/insurance, certain real estate operations, etc.

I can't think of an exact English correspondence.

J.

[Edward Hennessey]

Post by Jordi

Post by Phil
I'm doing someone's CV, and it says "diploma di ragionere e perito
commerciale". My dictionary gives the latter phrase simply as
"accountant". Presumably ragionere and perito commerciale are two
different things - can anyone enlighten me please?

Don't know in Italian, but a perito in Spanish is an expert in
quantification and valoration, and is a title given by the government.
For example, an accidented car has to be examined by a perito sent by
the insurance company and presumably neutral before any repair is
started. There different kind of peritos depending on their areas of
expertise.
There are 'peritaje' requirements for most situations involving
damages/insurance, certain real estate operations, etc.
I can't think of an exact English correspondence.

J:

"Insurance adjuster" and "probate referee" (for estate matters) spring to
mind in an American context.

Regards,

Edward Hennessey

[Diego Cánovas]

Hi all,
I think Jordi is talking about what would be an appraiser in English. But,
we used to have a "perito comercial" in Spain 20 or 30 years ago. They did
not go to the university. Nowadays an undergraduate diploma holder keeps the
same role (Diplomado Universitario), but they are not named "peritos"
anylmore, and this title is applicable only to an appraiser or expert in
especific fields such insurance, buildings, etc.

Maybe in Italy a "perito comerciale" is what we used to have in Spain. In
this case, I would translate it into English as Expert Accoutant.

Regards
Diego

Post by Edward Hennessey

Post by Jordi

Post by Phil
I'm doing someone's CV, and it says "diploma di ragionere e perito
commerciale". My dictionary gives the latter phrase simply as
"accountant". Presumably ragionere and perito commerciale are two
different things - can anyone enlighten me please?

Don't know in Italian, but a perito in Spanish is an expert in
quantification and valoration, and is a title given by the government.
For example, an accidented car has to be examined by a perito sent by
the insurance company and presumably neutral before any repair is
started. There different kind of peritos depending on their areas of
expertise.
There are 'peritaje' requirements for most situations involving
damages/insurance, certain real estate operations, etc.
I can't think of an exact English correspondence.

"Insurance adjuster" and "probate referee" (for estate matters) spring to
mind in an American context.
Regards,
Edward Hennessey

[Thomas Weber]

Post by Phil
I'm doing someone's CV, and it says "diploma di ragionere e perito
commerciale". My dictionary gives the latter phrase simply as
"accountant". Presumably ragionere and perito commerciale are two
different things - can anyone enlighten me please?

Wait a minute! So far the "translations" offered here include
accountant, book-keeper, appraiser, adjuster, referee. . . I don't know
Italian well, but I do know these English-language titles are all vastly
different things.

You'll need more research.

I started and then gave up. But from this site concerning requirements
for the title,

http://www.governo.it/GovernoInforma/Dossier/albo_commercialisti/relazione_ddl.html

I take it that this is a professional degree. And other searches
indicated to me that the unit of translation is the whole phrase
"ragionere e perito commerciale".

I am quite familiar with U.S. business professions and titles; for all I
know, you are, too, but if not, I would be glad to offer translations
once you've discovered what the scope and functions of a "ragionere e
perito commerciale" are.

[alberto]

Dear Phil,
I've found this definition in the Italian dictionary De Mauro, in which it
says that "perito commerciale" is substantially a "ragioniere". The web
address of the dictionary is www.demauroparavia.it

Perito
s.m., chi ha conseguito un titolo professionale relativo a una
specializzazione tecnica: p. agrario, tecnico, elettronico;
p. commerciale: ragioniere

HTH

Alberto

Post by Phil
I'm doing someone's CV, and it says "diploma di ragionere e perito
commerciale". My dictionary gives the latter phrase simply as
"accountant". Presumably ragionere and perito commerciale are two
different things - can anyone enlighten me please?